Comments on: And The Winner of the Browser Wars is…. http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html All Things Zimbra Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:25:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Alex http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-39029 Alex Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:18:27 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-39029 Opera 9.52 puts every other browser to shame. It's fast, stable and works very well with almost every site (some problems with gmail are history). New Chrome can do somethings faster, but is yet in a early stage of development. Opera 9.52 puts every other browser to shame. It’s fast, stable and works very well with almost every site (some problems with gmail are history).
New Chrome can do somethings faster, but is yet in a early stage of development.

]]> By: Jango http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-35634 Jango Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:45:03 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-35634 Steve and his boys pay you to do this test ? These benchmarks are not credible without including the superb Opera 9.52, which simnply puts the likes of Safari to shame. As for the question of compatibility, I found it to be more compatible that Safari for websites I use in my everyday life. One more point, speed is not the only thing that makes it wonderful; it is things like the customization options, widgets, skinnig, mail and RSS read and even IRC chat support all neatly integrated into one package that makes Opera the unchallenged winner. Steve and his boys pay you to do this test ? These benchmarks are not credible without including the superb Opera 9.52, which simnply puts the likes of Safari to shame. As for the question of compatibility, I found it to be more compatible that Safari for websites I use in my everyday life.

One more point, speed is not the only thing that makes it wonderful; it is things like the customization options, widgets, skinnig, mail and RSS read and even IRC chat support all neatly integrated into one package that makes Opera the unchallenged winner.

]]> By: Romeo Corleone http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-29548 Romeo Corleone Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:52:56 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-29548 well i think Opera is any day better its faster and more easier than anything, but im confused why Opera isnt showing here in the competion, could be its far better than all the competing nominees. :P well i think Opera is any day better its faster and more easier than anything, but im confused why Opera isnt showing here in the competion, could be its far better than all the competing nominees. :P

]]> By: John http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-23983 John Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:22:47 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-23983 I really look forward to robust opera support. I am greatful that zimbra 5 has it's html mode that mostly works in opera. I love zimbra, i love opera. plz figure out how to make this work! tnx! I really look forward to robust opera support. I am greatful that zimbra 5 has it’s html mode that mostly works in opera.

I love zimbra, i love opera. plz figure out how to make this work!

tnx!

]]> By: Nick http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-14035 Nick Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:39:41 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-14035 Some fairly recent benchmarks here; http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/software/internet/soa/Browser-faceoff-IE-vs-Firefox-vs-Opera-vs-Safari/0,139023437,339289417-1,00.htm?omnRef=http://www.reddit.com/info/6lklt/comments/c0472jj I posted this the other day, but it was removed, unsure as to why. Some fairly recent benchmarks here;

http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/software/internet/soa/Browser-faceoff-IE-vs-Firefox-vs-Opera-vs-Safari/0,139023437,339289417-1,00.htm?omnRef=http://www.reddit.com/info/6lklt/comments/c0472jj

I posted this the other day, but it was removed, unsure as to why.

]]> By: Redundancee http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-12994 Redundancee Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:39:59 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-12994 Opera? what and abortion. If anything worked in it I might care, but I don't. So we got like what, the 10 people here on the page that run Opera? That's proabably the whole Opera community right there. Opera? what and abortion. If anything worked in it I might care, but I don’t. So we got like what, the 10 people here on the page that run Opera? That’s proabably the whole Opera community right there.

]]> By: arnemart http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-12511 arnemart Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:13:01 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-12511 Just ran the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark (http://webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider.html), and here are my results: Opera 9.5: 6264.6ms Webkit nightly: 2030.4ms Safari 3.1: 3546.0ms Firefox 3.0 (final): 3280.4ms Is Opera still the fastest browser in the world? :-P Just ran the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark (http://webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider.html), and here are my results:

Opera 9.5: 6264.6ms
Webkit nightly: 2030.4ms
Safari 3.1: 3546.0ms
Firefox 3.0 (final): 3280.4ms

Is Opera still the fastest browser in the world? :-P

]]> By: David http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-11995 David Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:35:42 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-11995 So many Opera fanboys here. Well, if they could have tested for Opera, they shoulda...but as they said, there is a defect that prevented it. And with most browser statistics showing Opera at around 1.4-1.6 %, who cares? Other than fanboys, that is! :) Sorry, I know that was inflammatory, but let's get down to facts. I, too, don't develop for nor test for Opera when we do cross-browser testing. If I didn't have clients that demanded Safari, I wouldn't test for it, either. Together, they have about 4% of the market, and the majority of my clients don't want to spend the money pursuing this market. I will probably need to reconsider Safari soon, as a general platform, as the market has grown from .5 to 2.6 % in the last 3 years due to the popularity of the new Macs, while Opera has held steady at 1.5-1.6 % for the last 3 years. So, tell me, why is Firefox capturing nearly 40 % of the market (expanded from approx 10% in 2004/5 to nearly 40 % in May of 2008) , while Opera is capturing 1.5 %, year in and year out? Is it all an Opera lie, i.e. nearly all Opera uses are masquerading as IE browsers, as some here have claimed? Even so, the numbers show no growth at all for Opera. Is it just wishful thinking on Opera's part, that they are really as good as Firefox, but little brother just gets all the attention? Or is it that their open source younger brother is exceeding expectations, and growing beyond anything that Opera could ever hope for? Don't know, but will all the real Opera users unmask and show us their true identities? It's time to pony up. So many Opera fanboys here. Well, if they could have tested for Opera, they shoulda…but as they said, there is a defect that prevented it. And with most browser statistics showing Opera at around 1.4-1.6 %, who cares? Other than fanboys, that is! :)

Sorry, I know that was inflammatory, but let’s get down to facts. I, too, don’t develop for nor test for Opera when we do cross-browser testing. If I didn’t have clients that demanded Safari, I wouldn’t test for it, either. Together, they have about 4% of the market, and the majority of my clients don’t want to spend the money pursuing this market.

I will probably need to reconsider Safari soon, as a general platform, as the market has grown from .5 to 2.6 % in the last 3 years due to the popularity of the new Macs, while Opera has held steady at 1.5-1.6 % for the last 3 years.

So, tell me, why is Firefox capturing nearly 40 % of the market (expanded from approx 10% in 2004/5 to nearly 40 % in May of 2008) , while Opera is capturing 1.5 %, year in and year out? Is it all an Opera lie, i.e. nearly all Opera uses are masquerading as IE browsers, as some here have claimed? Even so, the numbers show no growth at all for Opera. Is it just wishful thinking on Opera’s part, that they are really as good as Firefox, but little brother just gets all the attention? Or is it that their open source younger brother is exceeding expectations, and growing beyond anything that Opera could ever hope for?

Don’t know, but will all the real Opera users unmask and show us their true identities? It’s time to pony up.

]]> By: sngx http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-11946 sngx Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:06:47 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-11946 Absolutely need to include Opera. If you must leave it off, you really need an explanation why. When you show a browser speed comparison and then completely ignore Opera you do everyone a disservice. Opera users get shunned, Safari and FF get more 'free advertisement', and Opera doesn't even get a mention. What if you don't know much about the browser market, all you hear from the media and around the web is how fantastic FireFox is, its irresponsible journalism to completely ignore Opera. Absolutely need to include Opera.

If you must leave it off, you really need an explanation why. When you show a browser speed comparison and then completely ignore Opera you do everyone a disservice. Opera users get shunned, Safari and FF get more ‘free advertisement’, and Opera doesn’t even get a mention. What if you don’t know much about the browser market, all you hear from the media and around the web is how fantastic FireFox is, its irresponsible journalism to completely ignore Opera.

]]> By: erik http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-11930 erik Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:23:45 +0000 http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/and-the-winner-is.html#comment-11930 I had to stop using Opera because of Zimbra's lack of support for Opera.(or perhaps it is Opera's lack of support for Zimbra). Either way, I miss Opera. I wish it would work well with Zimbra. I had to stop using Opera because of Zimbra’s lack of support for Opera.(or perhaps it is Opera’s lack of support for Zimbra). Either way, I miss Opera. I wish it would work well with Zimbra.

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